P&DCC Trip Notes

Kayaking can be a very dangerous hobby.  All trips listed are as a guide only and may need to be reduced according to weather conditions.   If you have any doubts on your ability or health take the safest option!  Conditions change greatly due to bad weather and P&DCC accept no responsibilty for errors in the following information.  No right of access is guaranteed unless specifically indicated, if in doubt checks should be made prior to carrying out any intended trip.

For questions on anything that should be added to this page please let me know.

Trips are based on High Water Portsmouth, UK.  This is a standard Port for the area.  Find the High Water Time for Portsmouth and the rest should just fall into place.

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High Water
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Not Applicable to Portsmouth HW

Trips that can be started at 6.0 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Eastney - Selsey Bill 20 3 - 4 Keep well out at Chichester Harbour entrance, due to the sand bar.   Lunch can be a little exposed.  Do NOT attempt if heavy SOUTHERLY winds.

Goodwick (Fishguard) – Newport.  HW Dover

One way trip allowing those with a drive to have cars at end point and get off home early…..

7.75 3
  Position Nm
-6 Goodwick – West of Fishguard 0
-5 Aber Hywel 3
-5.25 Lunch @ Penn Castell Southwest of Dinas Head 4
-4 Back on (can have longer if we wish) 4
-3 Aber Step 7
-2 Slipway at Newport Sands 7.75
Keyhaven - Cowes 20 3 Starting at Low Water!  Very few large ships but plenty of sailors about!
Putney - Greenwich 30 3 Lunch at Greenwich can be a little muddy.  Wait for the tide to turn for at least 30 minutes else you will overtake the tide.  Shipping in the main area of London is contolled by the Port of London Authority.  Keep to the RIGHT of the river in the areas between Wapping and Chelsea.
Stokes Bay - Selsey 30 3 DO not attempt if it is windy from the South!  Involves crossing several ferries routes and shipping lanes.  Selsey is exposed from the South and it is just a shingle beach when you get there.
Stokes Bay - Whitecliff 16 3 Great in the summer.  Follow the main shipping lane East.  The tide at Bembridge will turn soon after you arrive so do not hang about too long.  No loos at the lunch stop, sorry.

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Trips that can be started at 5.5 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Lymington - Fishbourne 28 3 Starting from just in front of the RNLI station at Fishbourne, watch for the I.o.W. ferries from the left.  Follow the main channel out of Lymington then head North-East  towards Cowes.  Not much shipping this side of Cowes but keep your eyes open for yachts.  Once you get towards Cowes you must have got over towards the Island.  Keep close to Egypt Point (can stop here for loos if you wish).  There are large car ferries and a high speed ferry that runs to Southampton so watch for them.   Cross from West to East Cowes and then head on a bearing of about 120.  Once you see car ferries in the distance you know you are getting close.  Those car ferries land at Fishbourne, so follow them in, stay West of the shipping channel.
Lunch can be had adjacent to the ferries (on the Eastern shore) or you can follow the tide in and have lunch at the end of Wooton Creek.
The return run is just a reverse of the way in, but Lymington can be a little difficult to see from this angle.  You will see the Car ferry again before you see the opening to the river!  
Stokes Bay - Bembridge 12 3 A simple run but crossing over the shipping lanes of the Portsmouth - Fishbourne car ferry, Portsmouth-Cowes Hovercraft AND Catamaran.  It also includes crossing the deep water channel that craft to Southampton use, so extreme care has to taken.  From Stokes Bay the first target is No Man's Land fort (it will be almost ahead of you).  Pass with this fort on your left and you will have just left the deep water channel.  Continue on that bearing and slightly right you will see St Helen's fort.  You can either head straight for the beach on the West of Bembridge, the beach to East OR go straight into the harbour entrance and land on the sand!
Allow the tide to start heading home and follow the reverse route back.  Aim to get close to Gilkicker Point (do not forget the traffic!).  Once past the point you will soon be swept along the bay to the start/end point.  Do not forget it is a bay so the land moves away from you.

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Trips that can be started at 5.0 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Sally Port - Bembridge 12 3  
Sandy Point - Wittering 6 2  
Putney - Tower Bridge 15 3  

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Trips that can be started at 4.5 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Keyhaven - Newtown 13 3  
Sally Port - Curbridge 20/40 3  

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Trips that can be started at 4.0 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Hamble - from Calshot 11 2  
Lee on Solent - Ryde 8 3  
Lymington - Cowes 18 3  
Porth Clais - Ramsey Sound (Pembrokeshire).  HW Dover

The crossing to Ramsey Island will involve a ferry glide across the tide. This will just be coming off its fastest flow. Round Ramsey Island West side. Plenty of time allowed to rockhop and maybe find seals?

12 3
  Position Nm
-4 Start Porth Clais, Map 35 742242 0
-3 Southern tip of Ramsey Island 3
-2 Northern Tip of Ramsey Island 6
-1 Lunch at Southern end of Whitesands Bay or Ynys Dinas (Ramsey Sound) 8
HW Back on water 8
+1 Through Ramsey Sound, to Carreg Fran 11
+1.3 Porth Clais,  LONG carry at this point as the water is level with the harbour wall 12
Round Pompey & Hayling (anti) 19 3  
Sally Port - Forts in Solent 13 3  
Sally Port - Seaview 9 3  
Sally Port - Selsey Bill 26 3  
Stokes Bay - Curbridge 13/26 3  
Stokes Bay - Fishbourne 8 3  
Stokes Bay - Southsea 8 2  
Woolston - Woodmill 7 2  

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Trips that can be started at 3.0 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Dale - Jack Sound (Pembrokeshire)

Sandy Start area, following the coastline. Tides based on Dover HW!

 15 3
  Position Nm
-3 Start at Dale, Map 36 812057 0
-2 Just past St Ann’s Head 3
-1 Gateholm Island 6
HW Jack Sound (Slack Water) – Lunch 7.5
+1 Back on the water 7.5
+2 Hoopers Point 10.5
+3 Mill Bay –Just past St Ann’s Rock 13.5
+4 Back at Dale  
Eastney - Round Hayling 12 3  
Itchen River 6 2  
Lepe - Beaulieu 9 2  
Lepe - Cowes 6 3  
Lepe - Newport 13 3  
Poole - Wareham 12 3  
Sailing Centre - Portchester 7 2  
Sally Port - Round Portsea Island 12 3  
Sally Port - Ryde 8 3  
Sandy Point - Selsey 13 3  
Stokes Bay - Netley 18 3  
Stokes Bay - Ryde 8 3  
Stokes Bay - Sailing Centre 14 3  

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Trips that can be started at 2.5 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Hamble - from Warsash 8 2  
Langstone Bridge-Bosham 14 3  
Lymington - Newtown 10 3  
Sally Port - Fareham 8 2  
Sandy Point - Bosham-Chichester 15 3  
Sandy Point - Dell Quay/Fishbourne 12 3  

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Trips that can be started at 2.0 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Hamble - from Itchen Bridge 8 1  
Hamble - Marchwood 13 2  
Hillhead - Ashlett Creek 8 1  
Hilsea Lido - Portchester 5 1  
Itchen Bridge - Ealing 14 3  
Round Portsea Island (Anti-clockwise) from Eastney 12 3 Paddling north in Langstone follow the Red bouys to Kendalls Quay.   Do not be tempted to go close to shore as you will be caught in a back eddy!   Once under the Eastern Road bridge follow Hilsea Creek.  You will have the A27 on your right, sorry about the road noise.  At Hilsea you will easily get under the two bridges that make the large roundabout.  You can have lunch at the slipway on the right if you wish just AFTER the second bridge.  Now heading South you will come under the M275 and keep the land on your left.  Just after the bridge are usually a few submarines and other craft that are being slowly broken down.  The next headland marks the beginning of Tipner Firing range!  If you see flags flying do not hang about at the end.  Once past the main "target area" you can either take the left 'channel' and pass inland of Whale Island/HMS Excellent.  If you have not stopped yet it might be worthwhile to do so at the mainland side of the small road bridge.   Once back on the water stay close to the right hand side, so avoiding the continental ferries.  There will be some small poles at the very end of the island.   This is where you would be if you did not come inland of the Island.  This is now a tricky area!  Watch for all shipping movements from the ferry-port on your left and other craft to your right.  WHEN it is clear cross to the corner of the dockyard.   You cannot land at any part of the dockyard!  Keep a reasonable distance from the Navy ships and follow the ships/land South.  STOP at the last ship and you will see HMS Warrior on your left.  Check for the green and white Gosport Ferry (right & left), the yellow and white FastCat Isle of White passenger ferries (berthing to left and enters the harbour ahead) and also keep an eye out for the blue and white WhiteLink car ferries.  When all clear cross to the pontoon 50 metres ahead.  At the southern end check again for Car and Passenger ferries, the car ferry stops just to left of where you are now.  When clear cross swiftly to the Still & West pub.   There is a shingle beach here you can land if wishing to use the toilet facilities.   Keep close to left (watch out for fishermen) as you leave the harbour.  It can sometimes be lumpy at the Round Tower.  Once past the Green Wooden pole keep about 50 metres left of the green channel marker bouys to maximize the tidal push.  As you close on Southsea Castle begin to tuck close to land.  It is possible to go under South Parade Pier but watch for fishing lines above and occasional swells.  Once under the Pier check the water direction at the submarine barrier ahead and it might be worth getting close to shore.  Follow the coast until you arrive at Eastney.  If you are on the third or fourth hour since HW it will be a struggle to get around the tall pier, stay as close to shore as you can.  It may even be better to land just before the pier and portage around it the few feet.  Again once back on the water stay close to shore.
Round Portsea Island & Hayling Island (clock) from Sally Port 19 3  
Round the Isle of Wight.

This option is on Neap tides so the tidal assistance is much less. So is any flow against.

52 3 - 4  
  Position Nm
Day 1
-2 Start Stokes Bay Bear 270 0
-1 Ryde Middle Bank Red Buoy 3
HW Gurnard Ledge Buoy 7
+1 Hempstead Ledge 11
+2 Fort Albert Camp at Fort Victoria 15
+3 Could continue to Hatherwood Point but have to check state of ledges….?????  

Day 2
A long day, but not rising at crack of dawn and arriving just as the tide is about to change against us, hopefully! It does allow for a short break (if we really must) at the Needles of about 15 minutes (but no later) and a 30 minute lunch stop at Ventnor.
+4 Start Fort Victoria 0
+5 The Needles – Short Break at Scratchells Bay if needed Bear 135 (SE) 3
+6 2 ¼ N.M. South of Freshwater 6
-6 3 N.M. South of Brook Point Bear 105 9
-5 1 N.M. South of Atherfield Point 13
-4 Bennet Point after St Catherine’s Point 17.5
-3.5 Ventnor Stop 30 Minute lunch stop 19.5
-3 Restart Ventnor 19.5
-2 Halfway across Sandown Bay 23
-1 Whitecliff Bay 26

Day 3
Sorry here is the sting! Need to be on the beach as starting 1 hour after HW (local HW) so should be swift to pack. The paddle back JUST gets us back to Stokes Bay on Slack water and have little assistance all the way back, sorry. Could start earlier if all are ready but not much later.

+1 Start Whitecliff Bay 0
+2 St Helens Fort 3
+3 1 N.M. Past No Mans Land Fort 6
+4 Stokes Bay  After this  the Tide is Headed East in the Solent 9
Sailing Centre - Langstone Hbr 7 1  
Stamshaw - Portsmouth Harbour 5 1  

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Trips that can be started at 1.5 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Eastney - Langstone 7 2  
Netley - Ealing 10 3  
Sailing Centre - Emsworth 10 3  
Sally Port - Portchester 6 2  
Warsash - Ashlett Creek   2  

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Trips that can be started at 0.5 Hours Before High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Itchen Bridge - Calshot 14 2  
Keyhaven - Yarmouth 9 3  
Portchester - Fareham

Loos at the start/end point and the parking is free!

 6 2 A nice gentle trip.  Main hazards are fishermen at the start.   If it is strong southerly you will find quite a chop on the water.  You can follow the coast on your right and you will arrive at Fareham.  In the creek to Fareham you will find a slipway on your left as the river bends tight right.  You can carry on further and follow the river under the A27/A31 junction.  Just past all these bridges is a small area where landing is simple for lunch, but no toilets.   There is even a benchseat just above.
The return is a simple return of the way in.
Swanage - Kimmeridge 18 3  

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Trips that can be started at High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Eastney - Fishbourne 15 3  
Eastney - Ryde 12 3  
Eastney - Sally Port 8 2  
Round the Isle of Wight

A 3 day trip with a reasonable degree of difficulty.  If the weather is force 4 or more Southerly do not even attempt.   Ideal wind force 2 Westerly.  Work on spring tide to make the distances.

 51

(3 day camp!)

 3 - 4
  Position Nm
Day 1
HW Start Stokes Bay bear 270 0
+1 West of Ryde Middle 1o 15’W 50o 46’N, in Main channel at W Cardinal marker 4
+2 Newtown, Halfway between Salt Mead Ledge & Hempstead Ledge Buoys 10
+3 Warden Point possible stop point at Sconce Point (Fort Victoria) 16
+4 The Needles, Stop at Scratchells Bay for coffee 19
+5 Freshwater – Camp if not done so already 22

Day 2 First Option
OK, if you did not get to Freshwater it is a VERY early start. Thanks to the tide the last few miles stand to be against the tide. Sandown Bay does not have much if any Eddy currents with a Westbound tide! Trust me I HAVE been in a group that was convinced one must be there! The first option is really a "hope Not" one. But not much better for the Start at Freshwater.
+5 Start Sconce Point – latest start time! 0
+6 Needles – bear 150 3
-5.5 1o 31’W 50o 37’ 30"N 6.5
-4.5 1o 25’W 50o 35’N bear 90 NOW 11.5
-3.5 The Undercliff past St. Catherine’s Point 17
-2.5 Ventnor 30 minute lunch stop MAX! 19.5
-1 Restart tide just with us 19.5
HW Shanklin Pier 23
+1 Yaverland (Sandown Bay) 23.5
+2 Whitecliff Bay Camp!!!! Note tents to be put up later evening 25
  Last 7 miles to Culver Cliff Against the tide and not much to gain by heading close to the beach!  

Day 2 second Option
-6 Start Freshwater Bear 180  Can Start earlier Not later 0
-5 1o 27’W 50o 36’N Bear 105 5
-4 St Catherine’s Point 11
-3 Ventnor Stop if needed or floating nibbles 30 Mins. Max 15
-2.5 Restart 15
-1.5 Halfway across Sandown Bay 18
-0.5 Whitecliff Bay STOP! Lunch & Sunbathe?? 20.5

Day 3
-3 Start from Whitecliff Bay 0
-2 St Helens Fort Bear 000 (War Memorial at Southsea) 3
-1 Just Northeast of Sturbridge Buoy 6.5
HW Stokes Bay 8.5
Sally Port - Eastney 8 2 Sounds simple.  Watch for wash from ferries and eddies at the start point.  The shore can be home to many fishermen so watch for their lines!  Just after the funfair is the landing point for the Hovercraft from Ryde.  Look right in the direction of the church at Ryde to see if it is on its way.  Once past the terminal you can stay close to the sea wall if it is not too choppy.  Be careful of the rocks at Southsea Castle.  Once past the Castle you can either go around or under the peir.  Watch out for the stantions if you go under and either route must watch for fishermen!  Follow the coast, you may find naturists as you close on Eastney so be careful to avert your eyes.  You can paddle right into the harbour entrance at this state of tide.  There is a slight tide against but nothing to difficult.
Lunch can be at either side of the entrance, there are toilets and a pub on the Hayling Island side.
The return run is identical but as you close on Sally Port stay close into shore so you do not feel the effects of the outgoing tide too much from Portsmouth Harbour.

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Trips that can be started at 0.5 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Whitesands Bay - Solva  HW Dover.

One way journey taking in coastline from Whitesands (as previous day) and following coast to Solva (possible lunch on Solva isle of at the quay).

 8.5 3
  Position Nm
+0.5 [Map 35 733273], Whitesands Bay Lifeboat Station Car park. 0
+1.5 Ogof Mrs Morgan 3
+2.5 Ogof y Flos (cave) 6.5
+3.5 Port of Solva, Lunch 8.5
+4.5 Back on Water 8.5
+5.5 Land at Newgale Sands 11.5

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Trips that can be started at 1.0 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Kimmeridge - Durdle Door 10 3  
Lepe - Freshwater 30 3  
Sally Port - Cowes 18 3  
Sally Port - Stokes Bay 7 2  
Tenby - Caldey Island (Pembrokeshire)

Tides based on Dover

 6.5 3 A great paddle but the island is owned by Cistercian Monks.  Permission must be granted by them before you land.   No landing Saturday and Sunday.
  Position Nm
+1 Start Tenby 0
+2 Chapel Point on Southern-most tip of the island. 3
+2.5 Land near Jetty Area (Ice creams near monastery) 4.5
+3.5 Restart back, head to Eel point first. 4.5
+4.5 Tenby 6.5

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Trips that can be started at 1.5 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Stokes Bay - Newtown 26 3  
Whitesands Bay - Ramsey Island.  HW Dover ! 7.5 3
  Position Nm
+1.5 [Map 35 733273], Whitesands Bay Lifeboat Station Car park. Bear 255 0
+2 Small Island Gwahan, bear 225 1.5
+2.5 Carreg-gwylan, West of Ramsey Island. 3.5
+3.5 Lunch at Twll y Gwyddel [705225] 4.5
+4.5 Back on Water 4.5
+5.5 Return to start bear 020, via Ramsey Sound 7.5
From Whitesands Bay head out to a small island then keep Ramsey Island on your left! Lunch will be taken at the southern end of Ramsey Island. Plenty of time to stay close to shore and view birds and seals. It has the largest colony of Atlantic Grey Seals in Wales and is a bird watchers paradise! A reasonably short trip as some may have a long journey home!

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Trips that can be started at 2.0 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Hillhead - Beaulieu River 13 3  
Stokes Bay - Calshot/Warsash 16 3  
Stokes Bay - Lepe 14 3  

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Trips that can be started at 2.5 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Lymington- Yarmouth / Needles 7 / 13 3 In one trip you recommend, you suggest
taking lunch at the Skokholm part of the trip "at North Haven or the quay
shown on the chart"  I would be very grateful if you could include the
information that landing on Skokholm
, that it is a private
nature reserve, and that the habitat is very frail and the nesting seabirds
very prone to disturbance so the cliffs should not be approached too closely
from the sea.
Skomer Island from Martins Haven.  HW Dover.

Head from ferry, to North of Skomer Island. 2.5Nm crossing from Skomer to Skokholm Island. Around Skokholm then back to start, via Jack Sound (possibly lumpy).

 7 / 13 3
  Position Nm
+2.5 Map 36 761091, Martins Haven Ferry to Skomer car park 0
+3.5 Pig Stone on Skomer, bear 160 3
+4.5 Franks Point on Skokholm Island 6
+5 Floating Lunch at North Haven, or quay shown on chart - see note below 6.75
+5.5   6.75
-6 Finish Lunch, bear 015 6.75
-5 Back at Start 9.25

Note:  Landing on Skokholm  is not allowed in any circumstances, except for approved visitors arranged with the warden.  It is a private nature reserve, the habitat is very frail and the nesting seabirds are very prone to disturbance so the cliffs should not be approached too closely from the sea.

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Trips that can be started at 3.0 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Hamble - Cowes 8 3  
Lepe - Newtown 12 3  
Little Haven - St Brides Haven (Pembrokeshire) HW Dover

Relaxed day follow the coast. Long lunch. Maybe a plod out to Stack Rocks on the way back, no chance of landing though there.

 7 3
  Position Nm
+3 Little Haven Map 36 856129 0
+4 Halfway Rock 3
+4.25 St Brides Haven (LUNCH) 3.5
+5 Long lunch!!!!! 3.5
+5.5 Head Back 3.5
-5.5 Back at Little Haven 7
Stokes Bay - Cowes 10 3  

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Trips that can be started at 3.5 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Eastney - Sandown 22 3  

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Trips that can be started at 4.0 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Eastney - Stokes Bay 11 3  
Hamble - Brambles Bank 8 3  
Langstone Bridge - Eastney 6 2  
Poole - Old Harry Rocks 11 3  
St. Brides Cross - Skomer.  WARNING! Skomer is a National Trust Island, so landing is at a premium.  Whenever we have tried to do it the weather has been Force 6 so maybe one day.....  HW Dover 11.75 3
  Position Nm
+4 St Brides Cross, MAP 36 802109, stay out and bear 270 0
+5 ½ mile north of Midland Isle just east of Skomer Island 3
+6 Anti-Clockwise round Skomer, @ The Wick (South West side) 6
  Lunch South Haven (not sure about landing spots 7
-6 Back on the water 7
-5 ½ mile north of Howney Stone 776100 10
-4 Land at St Brides Cross 11 .75
Tenby - Coastal (Eastbound)  HW Dover 13 3
  Position Nm
+4 Start Tenby head East and bear 040 0
+5 East of Saundersfoot 3.5
+6 Telpyn Point Lunch 6.5
-6 Back on the water,can take coast route back 6.5
-5 East of Saundersfoot 9.5
-4 Tenby 13
Warsash - Hillhead 7 2  

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Trips that can be started at 4.5 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Neyland (just east of Milford Haven)  HW Dover

An "inland" river trip, although the wind still seems to be always in our face!

 18 2 - 3
  Position Nm
+4.75 Neyland 0
+5.75 Castle Rocks 3
-6 Picton Point (take Left fork) 6
-5 Black Hill (Left fork) or Pickle Wood (Right Fork) LUNCH! 9
-4 Back on and head back 9
-3 Picton Point 12
-2 Castle Rock 15
-1 Neyland 18
Sally Port - Fishbourne 11 3  

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Trips that can be started at 5.0 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Sally Port - Felpham 29 3  

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Trips that can be started at 5.5 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Eastney - Bracklesham 12

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Trips that can be started at 6.0 Hours after High Water Portsmouth

Trip Distance (NM) Star Grade Notes
Sandy Point - Felpham 24

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Trips that are not related to High Tide (i.e. Inland)

Trip Distance (NM) Grade Notes
Pewsey Wharf - Devizes   2 - 3  
Thames from Marlow   1 - 2  
Wye Valley Weekend   2 -3 Although listed as 2-3 there can be several smaller trips over the length of the Wye.
Ross On Wye - Monmouth about 20 miles in total.  Lunch is nice just after Symonds Yat.
Monmouth - Brockweir about 12 miles in total.

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To be checked!

28 Eastney - Shanklin

Lulworth - Swanage

Lyme Bay Weekend

Poole - Around harbour

69 Sally Port - Poole     Week End camping over three nights.

20 Sally Port - Sandown

15 Selsey Bill - Nab Tower

60 Stokes Bay - Poole

6 Warsash - Calshot

Wittering - Bognor

Solent Swimmers from Stokes Bay -3

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